Jack A.  Morning,  I like what you have to say..

Is it true that  NANCY PELOSI has some ties to T.BOONE PICKENS and his wind company?    If so, she should excuse herself from the DRILLING DEBATES... :)

DRILL NOW, DRILL OFTEN....... DRILL

.....he'll be a pickins' your pockets just like ol' mike here wants to do.........

come see t boone the scam artist, another in the mold of algore.

read up on some of the pickins clan's scamming:

http://patgray.com/home/?p=2073

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T. BOONE PICKENS

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Energy Town Hall Meeting

With guests: Governor John Hoeven and U.S. Representative Earl Pomeroy

Thursday, August 21

9:00 AM (Doors open 8:30 AM )

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1800 North University Drive
Fargo, ND

Mr. Pickens will dialogue with citizens about his plan for increasing wind power and reducing our reliance on foreign oil.

No ticket required, free and open to the public

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Reply...

Hello again Jack,

Ethanol does produce more energy than it usess to produce unless you add in the energy cost for making the tractors and all equipment associated with agriculture, and delivering that equipment.   Again the current production of ethanol is helping to extend our non-renewable oil sources and helping to avoid even more dependence on foreign oil where 60% is currently imported.

When you consider the total cost for oil, perhaps we should include all the costs for the US to protect the oil supply in the Middle East and other parts of the world that do not have our best interest at heart?   This is General Chuck Walds concern as well as former CIA Chief James Woolsey. 

I agree with the legislators that want to encourage another refinery in ND to help avoid the high costs of shipping crude out of ND then shipping gas and diesel back in again after it's refined in other states.  We'll need to conserve and make the best use of all our energy resources, non renewable and renewable. 

Merging non renewable energy with more clean, home grown, terror free, renewable energy extends those non-renewables, it helps make our fossil energy more marketable as our energy customers in other states want a higher mix of renewables, it also helps them burn cleaner, and it's good for national security by reducing our dependence on foreign oil. 

Our ND utilities understand this, that's why they're investing millions in wind and biomass energy projects.  Making better use of our resources,  and diversifying our energy sources and products is good for business and good for North Dakota.

Here's a segment of an article from Great River Energy on the subject:  http://www.connexusenergy.com/GRERenewables%20position%20statement.pdf

You know, Mike, the push for ethanol started long before the rise in oil prices.  Why?  It had nothing to do with anticipated high prices, anticipated shortages, or giving us "choices".  What was that reason?  It WAS all about giving the farmers another market for their products. 

What sense does it make to "grow " a fuel when it takes essentially as much petroleum energy to grow and produce as energy derived from the end product?  Oh, I forgot, it puts money in your pocket instead of the Saudis (has to be the definition of "home grown fuel").

More on this ethanol sham:

http://www.mindfully.org/Air/2003/Ethanol-Largest-Scam6jun03.htm

Mike, there you go with your propaganda again.  You keep saying we need "choices".  The consumer does not have a "choice"  because you, your cronies, and liberal Republicans like your idol Pawlenty ( one of your top ethanol mafia enforcers) MANDATE we use it.  It's great the media is uncovering this biofuel scam.

How many tens of thousands of acres did you help cut down today, Mike?  Just so you can make a buck on this scam.

Read what a scandal this ethanol is:

http://www.bostonherald.com/business/automotive/view.bg?articleid=1091934&srvc=home&position=also

Good to hear from you again Jack! 

Now gas is averaging $3.73 across the nation and oil hit an all time high of $126 a barrel where 60% of it comes from foreign countries.  The oil cartels and multinational corporations don't seem to be "competing" too well, but it's keeping the shieks happy.  

With more development and improvements in technology, people will have more fuel choices to use more home grown, terror free, alternative fuels.  

Here's an article from MSN NBC today:  Many analysts have predicted prices will surge much higher, and may breach the psychologically important $4 level on a national basis within the next couple of months. Prices are already that high in many parts of the country.

Some analysts are beginning to question whether gas prices will follow their typical pattern of peaking around Memorial Day, then declining through the summer.

“Retail prices aren’t going to decline as long as any part of the energy complex is heading higher,” Ritterbusch said.

Retail diesel prices rose 2.9 cents Tuesday to a national average of $4.39 a gallon, according to AAA and the Oil Price Information Service. The high price of diesel has helped drive up costs for goods and services throughout the economy. 

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SG- it just riles me to the core what scams these snake-oil people are getting by with.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000039&refer=columnist_hassett&sid=aSVm3V6ipm8I

Mike, it must really be upsetting to you and the "sustainable" ilk that the media is FINALLY coming out with the truth on ethanol and biofuels.  And just because YOU and your industry says these scams are not affecting food prices means nothing.  The "sustainable" industry is big time into the game of if you say a lie enough times, it becomes the truth.  Your industry IS a lie and the mainstream media (liberal as it is) is finally reporting it.

Catch up on these scams, Mike won't give you the truth:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000039&refer=columnist_hassett&sid=aSVm3V6ipm8I

Jack a, you say it so very eloquently.  

I also "like" watching the elite waste fuel while asking me to recycle....

Mike, I "like" to pay $126 barrel prices because of your ilk refusing drilling on all public lands, off our coasts, and in ANWR.  I "like" to pay those prices so the "green" gestapo can use the power of government to stiffle all that makes sense, and go "green", and force us to use the scam products of ethanol and biofuels.  I also "like" to pay higher prices so Mike and his cronies can dream of having the riches of the Saudis.

Inform yourself about this "grow your fuel" scam:

http://www.bostonherald.com/business/automotive/view.bg?articleid=1091934&srvc=home&position=also

Mike, I'd rather see the markets set the price of oil than to let you and your cronnies dictate to us WHAT we will be using. 

Mike, why should YOU be the one (along with those liberal Republicans you agree with) that decides what the energy policy should be?  Free markets will always work better than the "sustainable" mafia.

Want to know why CO2 is increasing in the atmosphere?  Mike is doing his best to "grow" our fuel, as a result aids in the destruction of rainforests, and are being cut down at alarming rates.  These the great carbon sinks of the earth.  See what Mike is doing:

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1725975,00.html

Morning Mike,

I don't want to talk  totes instead of plastic bags when Al Gore and the others are using Jet fuel like it is going out of style.. :)

I like the idea of terror free energy..   

Good Morning Shoppe!

We are drilling, check out western ND.  The issue is we can't keep consuming oil at our current rate because there is a finite amount, the oil that is left is more expensive to extract, and it is not a renewable resource.   The lack of a comprehensive energy policy is not a partisan issue.  We need to work together to get it done. 

Now oil is up to $126 a barrel and $3.50 a gallon.  Renewable energy is not causing the high price of oil or goods.  The $126 a barrel cost of oil is causing all the cost of  goods and services to rise because we're over dependent on oil and 60% of that is coming from foreign countries. 

I do consider America to be a strong world leader and I believe the best way to continue that is to lead by developing our own home grown, terror free, renewable resources to gain more control of our energy destiny, then market that new technology with the other countries, particularily emerging nations. 

One of those emerging biomass (non food) to biofuels technologies is Coskata that is working with GM for ethanol production for $1 a gallon from crop residue, perrenial grasses, and municipal waste.  Producing this type of ethanol will help extend our own oil resources and reduce our current 60% dependence on foreign oil.  

 Here's some of my ideas:

Through conservation and efficiency improvements and developing more of our diverse resources of renewable and nonrenewable energy in the cleanest, most sustainable manner, we can lead the world.  Our new energy selfsufficiency will improve national security as well as the economy and the environment.  North Dakota has the vast and diverse resources to be a leader in this area.

Here's a sample of just one new energy source that avoids heating costs and provides new revenue in Fargo where a $1 million project generates over $287,000 a year in electric sales and $85,000 in avoided heating costs capturing methane.  Over $370,000 that use to be wasted into the atmosphere annually as a pollutant. 

You can see the energy production online: http://apps.cityoffargo.com/solidwaste/energyproduction/

North Dakota is perhaps the best area for a diverse mix of energy sources, renewable and fossil fuel.  Developing new ideas to improve energy efficiency and water conservation is the first thing each of us can do in little ways like using reusable grocery totes instead of always new plastic bags. 

Merging home grown, terror free, renewable energy with domestic fossil fuels helps extend our nonrenewable resources, it helps them burn cleaner, it's good for the economy and controlling our energy destiny improves our national security.

Retired General Chuck Wald was in charge of US oil security and is an NDSU Alumni.   I had the chance to hear him at an Energy Conference Senator Conrad sponsored.  Here's what he has to say: http://www.secureenergy.org/energycouncil_bio-Wald.php

I have 2  super little grandsons,  intense blue eyes, toothless grins,  total innocence... I WORRY FOR THESE BOYS !

America is not going to be as great as it is now when they are teenagers.   We are giving our SUPERPOWER status away, because the dems are embarrassed that we are stronger than other countries.

We are causing the whole world to have food shortages because WE DON'T HAVE THE ******* TO GO AGAINST THE LIBS AND DRILL FOR OUR OWN OIL..  We would rather BURN FOOD...

I don't care what President Bush or alot of other RINO conservatives say about it.... I KNOW WHAT IS RIGHT, AND WHAT IS WRONG ....  Burning food and causing our prices to skyrocket is WRONG...  drilling (like others are doing in our own gulf )  is GOOD....  What is so hard about this..

And I am not even a rocket scientist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   Enough discussion, hand me a drill !

Jack,

You're one of the few that likes $126 a barrel oil, $3.50 a gallon gas, higher costs of living from the rise in price of all the goods that are produced and delivered using oil where 60% of that oil is coming from foreign countries.

I agree with the President, Governor Pawlenty, Governor Hoeven, all the presidential candidates that America needs to conserve energy and resources and we need to be less dependent on oil as it's a non-renewable resource and reduce the need for foreign energy.

I wonder why a few individuals to want to keep the US dependent on oil while there are many ways to conserve and diversify our home grown renewable energy and make our non renewable energy sources burn cleaner and more efficiently as our commander in chief and other leaders across the country believe?

Again, here is President Bush's remarks:
"America has to change its habits It has to get off oil Until we change our habits, we are going to be dependent on oil," Bush said. "  ~End quote~

President Bushes remarks are most welcome.  Isn't it great to see all the folks who are coming to realize what a fantastic opportunity we have here in the United States to become energy independent through more development of clean, sustainable, home grown, terror free, renewable energy?  Let's keep moving it forward! 

Here's President Bushes remarks at the International Renewable Energy Conference in Washington:

March 5, 2008 9:06 AM PST

Bush commits to renewable energy for climate change, energy security

Posted by Martin LaMonica | 14 comments 

WASHINGTONThe world is in the early days of an energy revolution for clean technology, a shift the United States is committed to for economic, political, and environmental reasons, President George Bush said in a speech here Wednesday.

The president spoke to delegates from more than 120 countries at the Washington International Renewable Energy Conference (WIREC) 2008, where he described what the United States has done to promote biofuels, fuel efficiency, and renewable power sources like wind.

"America has to change its habits. It has to get off oil. Until we change our habits, we are going to be dependent on oil," Bush said.

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President George W. Bush calls for more renewable energy at international conference.(Credit: Martin LaMonica/CNET News.com) < 

He remarked that the United States now imports 60 percent of its oil, up from 20 percent in 1985, a situation that leaves the country vulnerable to economic disruptions and attacks from terrorist groups.

The concentration of greenhouse gases has increasingly substantially as well from burning fossil fuels, causing global climate change, Bush said.

Mike is applauding Pawlenty for pulling ANOTHER biofuel scam on us, I just heard he is signing into law MORE mandates on the amount of Mike's snakeoil fuels that has to be used in diesel fuel.  Truckers, how do you like Mike continually driving up your costs of running your business while he is continually "only trying to help you"?  If he helps any more you may be out of business.  While Mike and his ilk have the visions of Saudi wealth in their pockets, just remember it will come from our pockets.

Don't believe our "friend" Mike, read up on the truth about Mike's "sustainable" products:

 http://www.indypendent.org/2007/06/09/the-great-biofuel-hoax-touted-by-politicians-and-industry-%E2%80%9Cgreen%E2%80%9D-energy-comes-with-a-high-price-tag/