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Legal bills mounting in UND nickname dispute

Grand Forks, N.D. (AP) Legal bills in the University of North Dakota lawsuit against the NCAA are creeping up toward a million dollars.

The UND Foundation says that as of the end of August attorneys had billed just under $800,000.

UND is suing over postseason use of its Fighting Sioux nickname.

The NCAA says the name is hostile and abusive. UND says it's used with respect.

The lawsuit is being funded by private donations to a litigation fund managed by the UND Foundation. The money is going to Attorney General Wayne Stenehjem's office and a private Utah law firm.

The NCAA has not released the cost of its defense in the lawsuit.

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Posted by prairie fire on Sep 9 2007 9:22AM - As a Native American,I totally think the UND logo is awsome. I vote y'all keep it. the only ppl crying are the ones who have nothing better to do-like figure out how to get school supplies for kids.or finding rental apts. for NEW out of state students.All the outa staters love the nickname..I say: GO FIGHTING SIOUX" From an enrolled member of the Standing Rock Sioux tribe.. Out here where I live we have all types of meditereanian ppl trying to pass themselves off as NativeAmericans. so they themselves would be what we call the wannabes. Theyre the ones who wont just leave it be!..We are the fighting sioux and damn proud of it! slip a couple frogskins under some noses of ANY race and they'll tell you it's offensive! KEEP THE NAME!Its fun to watch all these blonde haired/blue eyed folks claiming native an protesting something that wont get done.just take a look at the Cleveland stadium protesters...theres ALLLL types OF ppl there EXCEPT REAL INDIANS LOL Theyre a joke out here...

Posted by Steve Rusk on Sep 9 2007 9:06PM - I think these NCAA boys are going to hang in there and fight the Fighting Sioux. They dare not loose this one, as others will jump on the winners train and fight them. I think their plan is to fight us with their deep pockets and break our bank. Come on all you North Dakotans, chip in and hold fast; don't let these interlopers tell us how to live. Prairie Fire is right, it is outsiders who claim some moral high ground that the Standing Rock Sioux themselves do not lay claim to. Leave North Dakota to its own; live and let live; keep your noses out of our business. I like New Hampshire's motto: "Live Free or Die."

Posted by Wade Crowe on Sep 14 2007 10:58AM - Prairie Fire, Are you in the Lakota Iyapi group? I really think you should educate yourself before writing. Fighting Sioux is offensive, we are not cartoon or caricatures but real people. When the white squatters first came, we were unable to stop them and now you want to bow to their desires? Do you know La Donna Bull Bear?

Posted by prairie fire on Sep 19 2007 1:25PM - yes I am.... and I believe I AM allowed to LIKE whatever teams I SO choose to like. LOL do not go there with me,I grew up on the rock,yes I attended some school Bfore ld went to cali..UND? I am proud that some of my relatives went to school there..they became someone. Cleveland Indians team I like becos I do...I CAN SEE past the Offensive logo. Im living for today,tryna find ways to help feed some hungry homeless that the white govt. forgot about.We're native americans and I think tunkasina put us here just to be the land keepers we've become. It's in my heart to learn everything the whiteman has to offer and learn and take that knowledge to put to good use...I canna afford to waste my time downing cheese with my whine.lol.what has ld got to do with anything? I never kept in touch with anyone when I left...Im having fun out here learning to fix cameras/hasselblads..Im learning new things out here. Going to concerts/not country kind crying in da beer stuff.lol..but this is me... and only me... hate me if ya likes... it's ok...I got hungry all colours of kids here to feed. Thank GOD for Grandmas,,,THEY taught some of us to do the things we are here for.

Posted by Wade Crowe on Sep 19 2007 4:20PM - Your stupidity is astounding Prairie Fire. Who are your elders? I really think you should have a talk with La Donna Bull Bear, she's from Standing Rock also. Hopefully she'll get the wasicu out of you.

Posted by prairie fire on Sep 20 2007 9:49AM - hmmmm. college stupidity! ladonna LEFT for CALI when SHE was a young bud! so SHE TOO learned things...get on her about moving to Cali...I dont even know her..I went to a class with her when we was like ten!?????? ..I WILL FOREVER continue to enjoy my Cleveland Indians games ON t.v. AND live!..When I return to MY HOME on the rezz. I will continue to LOVE what I LOVE BEST!...Dont talk to me in wasicu then! mr..

Posted by prairie fire on Sep 20 2007 9:54AM - I KNOWWWWWwww Ain't it kewlll?

Posted by wade crowe on Sep 20 2007 11:46AM - Prairie Fuego,
No te preocupes mas porque en este momento, te hablo en espanol. Eres iktomini?

Posted by peeweepeterson on Sep 20 2007 7:23PM - Why is this an issue, unless the Sioux or any other American Indian name has something to be ashamed about. You would think it would be an honor to have something named after you.

Posted by wade crowe on Sep 20 2007 8:25PM - Sioux? We are not Sioux! We are D/L/Nakota. We are not mutant dogs nor are we stadiums built by pigskinned white folk.

Posted by thenorth40ty on Sep 20 2007 10:06PM - The NCAA wanting all schools that use indian nicknames and mascots should tell the NFL or baseball that any professional team that uses an indian nickname that they can not sign any player to their organization. UND suing just to keep their nickname is just stupid. If Mr Englestad was still alive the NCAA would never dare cross his path.

Posted by wade crowe on Sep 21 2007 10:09AM - If Mr. Englestad was still alive, he'd spend his money elsewhere. He wouldn't spend it on a reservation, he wouldn't help the D/L/Nakota. We are the downtrodden of society and you expect us to bow down to evey whim of the white folk?

Posted by prairie fire on Sep 21 2007 2:25PM - Kangi there is verie touchieeee.LOL..If we aint sioux then "don't Worry 'bout it"..waad da pugg? I have a share in stadium interests BTW..LOL..And NO! You shudd not bow down-becos that's ur right..I aint and havent bowed down to no one..I have served my time in the military and some college and still I'm learning stuff.-good stuff. I have a LIFE here.this E guy whomever he was...well he's not here now so we won't worry about him or how he ever felt about native americans..NCAA just tries to get a name for themselves..theyre laughable.

Posted by Survivor99 on Sep 22 2007 12:59PM - To Wade Crowe: QUIT YOUR WHINING!!! I'm a Dakota Sioux and I've made a good living in Minnesota by leaving North Dakota 10 years ago, and you sound like you're out of touch with reality. You're like alot of these black activists. You point the finger at other people, and turn it to an "US and THEM" situation. You have this big ugly negative, hateful cloud you live under, and it seems that you don't like whites.
We should be mad at the people who are trying to get rid of the name, and not the people who want to honor us by keeping the name.
I guess I have one question for you: No kidding! We're not cartoons? How long did it take you to figure that one out? Oops that 's two questions.
The real racists are trying to get rid of the name!!!!! So what happens if this honorable name ends up being removed??? I'll blame dummies like you Mr. Crowe, or should I say Miss Crowe? God Bless the UND Fighting Sioux!!!

Posted by prairie fire on Sep 22 2007 1:17PM - I also apologise to anyone whose reading this rant...BUT this IS the life I CHOSE.
I know if I stayed there,who knows I'd be sitting in heaven with some of my fellow classmates and relatives./Leaving behind that which i brought into this world to carry on the heartache of an unbroken chain of life on the rezz.
Too many things happened while I was growing up there. at the age of eleven my life changed drastically...
Thats when I made my mind up to leave and camp on the outside.so I did. Here I am in Ohio living the life I chose. IKTOMI? NO! wicca witch,coven meetings. I help animals get better. i give away what I should keep.Im constantly trying to plant things all the time...flowers veggies just anywhere I see they MIGHT not be bothered. YESSSS! You call me a spider? I was looking at my web..You know what I saw on the other side? some guy on PBS showing off some greek haus on t.v.. boneynochezto ya!

Posted by JaeWendy on Sep 23 2007 7:31AM - I LOVE the name.. "UND FIGHTING SIOUX"!!! At least the Sioux Native Americans ancestors FOUGHT for what they believed in!! Thats more than a lot of "Americans" did... Come on, get those soap box people OFF their stands and let's worry more about the important things in our country!! I agree... GOD BLESS THE UND FIGHTING SIOUX!!!

Posted by prairie fire on Sep 23 2007 9:59AM - The other thing??? IF the east coast tribes were'nt too busy fighting with each other as to who was the better nose wipe back then We wouldnt PROBABLY be in this mess....
And ThankYou Jwendy!!!.. Really it's a name that totally represents us as a nation..in a sport we're having a mock battle..lol...in military we wish for the days...I thot the spanish remark was a tad ruff kangi wicasa!!!!!!SSSSSSsssssometimes sneeky snakes come around....enjoy ur day bud!

Posted by wade kangi on Sep 24 2007 10:24AM - Prairie Fire, I meant inktomini or drunk not spider. You sound drunk. I'd stay away from the Old Spice if I were you.

Posted by d klein on Sep 24 2007 3:32PM - to survivor99, well said and I would like to add that anyone who would go to UND, see the tribute and the writting dedicated to Sitting Bull, and find it offensive is just closed minded. Wade Crow, you are the root of the hatred surronding this issue and I say to you that you are the racist and not the people you accuse of it. You admit that you are not even Souix and yet you wine about this. You are no better then the man at standing rock who crusades against the nickname because his son was beaten up on the UND campass. He happens to be a tribel counsel member and uses his position to advance his personal feelings. You talk of tradition and honer, why should the people of this generation pay for the past? I did not take land,I did not fight your people and it is my tradition to admire and cheer for one of the finest hockey teams the country has known. A long standing TRADITION of striveing to be the best. Yet you and others seem to beleive that it is fair and right for me to give up my tradition to honer yours. The Souix logo is one the finest in all of college sports, people from around the country who follow hockey know who the Fighting Souix are, and when they take the ice against them they know they must be at thier best to win. I understand that in the process that this country has gone thru to become policticly correct, it has gotten stupid. So its not intirely your fault, you just have to find something to be offended by and picked this. In closeing, lets say that you and I buy a sports team, now , lets name it after someting we dispise. Wake up, live in this time period and quit finding things to be offended by. I call for all suporters of the UND Fighting Souix nickname and logo to boycot the casino's at Spirit Lake and Standing Rock to show that we too can heard

Posted by wade crowe on Sep 24 2007 7:57PM - Sioux? We are D/L/Nakota and I'm from the Hunkpati Dakota Nation of Crow Creek, South Dakota.

Posted by prairie fire on Sep 25 2007 9:15AM - Sorry I never learned THAT one on the rezz... how does one drink "Old Spice is it?" And as I dont speak ehspaneeesh! then I assume you are - you speeek soo goot!as I walk awayyyy and notice a new baby growing ...hmmm must transplant this wee one...but you go about ur business Mr. K..I'll keep my sash planted...and wait for something more important to stand up to...aho!

Posted by prairie fire on Sep 25 2007 9:23AM - so am I related to you? THATS where I get my shooting mouth!.LOL

Posted by Sven O'Leary on Sep 26 2007 11:58AM - When is the NCAA going to tell Notre Dame that they can't use the "Fighting Irish" nickname? I think that is just as bad as "Fighting Sioux".

I am also upset that the professional Minnesota football team uses "Vikings" as their nickname.

Both of these names are insults to my heritage.

Posted by prairie fire on Sep 27 2007 8:31AM - I JUST SAY::: If the nations in the tristate area didnt WANT that back then they could have slipped in other names WAAAAY back when..I think.

Posted by prairie fire on Sep 27 2007 8:35AM - Funny you should say that about tribal folk using theyre status!!!!!
I knew a girl waaay back when who got P.G. and at the same time another girl got the knock up and her daddy was a tribal dude and the first girl got KIKKT out of school and the other girl tribal daddys position girl there got to stay and finish and graduate with the class! I soo hated the discrimmination then!

Posted by wade crowe on Sep 27 2007 4:24PM - Notre Dame will lose all of their games this year so I guess Fighting Irish will have to become Flighty Irish. Charles Weiss will just become Ty's assistant at Washington.

Posted by prairie fire on Sep 28 2007 11:01AM - aka?

Posted by Moe on Oct 2 2007 1:53PM - This is to D klein who ever you are you should really learn how to type, along with the rest of you all, come on now everybody can't we all just agree that Sioux is not the name of our people, so why should we be offended by it? As for Mr. Klein you really come off as a racist, close-minded Caucasian idiot, so Good Day Sir!

Posted by prairie fire on Oct 8 2007 7:31AM - OOT .

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